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№11 Author: Heathen Artist (10 October 2009 01:46) Total user comments:0
Technically MASTERFUL!!!!
Unfortunately it is _all_ technique and zero substance as copying photographs creates an artistic redundancy. Photo-Copying is a valid learning tool, but the final result is "craft" and certainly NOT "art."
That being said, I applaud the craftsman's technique and quality of hand with graphite. Drawing photographs with such apparent accuracy and with a full range of tone is time consuming and labor intensive. Most artists move past these exercises quite early in their creative lives; The fact that Randy Hann continues to devote so much time to such endeavors shows a devotion to his craft that exceeds that of many of his "artistic" contemporaries.
Mister Hann has obviously found something he is good at and chosen to stick with it. I encourage him to continue doing what he does best and look forward to seeing his work prominently displayed in mall kiosks across the country.
№14 Author: Hunter the artist (10 October 2009 06:52) Total user comments:0
Heathen Artist,
You are wrong, who are you to judge what is and isn't art?? yes this is art! if this isn't art then would you classify photography as an art? if your logic is followed then nothing is art.
What does it matter that one has stopped time to ensure that he or she can capture the detail within it.
Have you ever heard of Camera Obscura. Many, very prominent, renaissance artists used them.
You can give backhanded compliments, but at the end of the day, art is beauty through ones ability to create. And Randy has created beautiful works of ART!
№18 Author: Brisket Isbest (10 October 2009 16:01) Total user comments:1
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Undeniably, they are amazing technical performances. And there's no "but" coming after that comment. They are impressive in what they do. Transcription at this high level of detail and accuracy is difficult. I give the artist that, totally. I just look for poetry and interpretation of subject when I look at a painting or drawing, rather than stunning accuracy.
When I think of photography being used as a tool by artists, I think first of top-of-their-field commercial painters and illustrators, like Norman Rockwell or James Avati (although I know that, yes, Thomas Eakins and other fine artists used them way before this). These artists made extensive use of photographs as a starting place for more or less elaborate compositions. They were not bound by the photos. They didn't prop a scene and shoot their whole painting in a single exposure.
First, they had a picture idea, and sketched it up. Then, they took several photo references separately specifically with that picture idea in mind. Finally, they assembled them as an underdrawing into their original composition, using all their imaginative and compostional skills and gifts as artists. When you compare their photo reference to the eventual redrawing and painting (which you can view in sequential comparisons in books out on either artist) you will most likely be struck among other things by how different the source and the interpretation are. (Make no mistake, the interpretations are rigorous and "right on it" in terms of accuracy of observation and knowledge of anatomy displayed.) But the light source may change between source and interpretation, major details of the pose, and the appearance of the individual may morph into something more heavy-set, or more bird-like in the artist's hand, as the idea dictates. But in any event, you will realize the way photos can be used by a creative artist as a starting point, not as a template delivered complete by the camera.
Certainly this is subjective, but as a devotee of a basically "realistic" approach, I will always prefer the approach described above -- using a photo as a starting point which can be departed from freely -- to a hard transcription.
№29 Author: prustage (12 October 2009 14:21) Total user comments:0
The art and creativity here were in the taking of the original photo: choosing the subject, capturing the moment, arranging the light and forms within the frame - this is the art and its result - a photograph.
What we have above is the craftsmanship of the copyist - someone who is skillful with a pencil - but not an artist. I can admire the skill and am sure that from his point of view producing these drawings was probably very therapeutic but from my perspective I really cant see the point.
If any of the above appealled to me, I would be more interested in aquiring the original photo than any of these rather dead and lifeless copies.
№35 Author: ukewench (13 October 2009 04:57) Total user comments:0
I have seen greatness. You Mr. Hann are great. I know what I like and am not swayed by opinions of negativity. Thank you for the opportunity to see such beauty.
№38 Author: corinne (14 October 2009 06:42) Total user comments:0
the flower is by far the worst, everything else...way more difficult but so much more intricate and beautiful, look like real photographs in black and white, some! i love it
№40 Author: Walter R. (14 October 2009 09:50) Total user comments:0
Heathen Artist just sounds petty and jealous. What's the difference in using a photograph for reference (assuming that's what the artist did) and using a live model for reference as all portrait artists do? I had an art professor belittle a photo realistic pencil drawing of a still-life containing a cut glass vase. It was amazing! He said anyone could do it. But I saw his "art" and thought it was all crap, (looked like pastel mattresses patterns), so I don't think he could have done it. Those who can do, those who can't teach (or criticize).
№42 Author: T Mentron (14 October 2009 16:26) Total user comments:0
This technique is a stylistic straight jacket - artist should spend more time trying different things than laboriously copying photos in this clinical style. 100% for technique - 0% content - where's the warmth, edge, boldness, strength, character, emotion? Its like being sedated with valium.
№43 Author: bored (14 October 2009 16:27) Total user comments:0
they look like overexposed versions of stock photographs. children, dogs, playing children, boats, children (getting creepy eh?). if he had applied his skills to some kind of surrealist manifestation of reality than I might consider him an artist. Impressive if he didn't trace or refer to existing photographs, regardless, the depiction of these images is dull. The easily impressed like to claim jealousy, but what, besides "wow look at that , it looks just like a real photograph" (which begs the question, why doesn't he just display some photographs instead of wasting his time?) , do you get out of this? Does it provoke you in any way (I mean, apart from thinking oh look some cute kids and pets). like ablejohn said...without soul
№44 Author: Theodore. Roger, Oliver Langston L. (14 October 2009 21:36) Total user comments:0
This looks shopped, i know shops ive seen a few good ones in my day and this is up there.
-sincerely Theodore. Roger, Oliver L. Langston (sorry for the long name but its my professional name and my Actual name...just thought you should know both..
№45 Author: sTRANGER (16 October 2009 14:04) Total user comments:0
umm these are amazing..really. no matter what people say. yes, it may not be exactly art, but this is still brilliant. And it isn't wasting time, there is sooo much talent and potential there. Its rare for anyone to have the capability to draw these realistically, and if it is copying your EXTREMELY good at it :).honestly if i copied an image i would be please with 1/20th of what you have created. And im sure if you created an image using your imagination or by watching these events take place in actual reality rather the still-life, then your work would be more appreciated.not that you aren;t super awesome already. and seriously some people just don't see the beauty of the subject matters in your work.
№46 Author: S. (17 October 2009 05:33) Total user comments:0
Seconding Brisket Isbest. SERIOUSLY.
Artists who use/used photos as references DO use them as only a starting point. And I honestly can't think of any artist who takes a single photograph and then transcribes that photo with graphite onto a canvas or paper. In those instances, the creativity, the idea, and the execution happened in the photo--and the artists that I studied under, at least, weren't generally given to the creative redundancy required for Hann's kind of work.
Creating a good photograph isn't traditionally "hard" the way drawing from life is, but we can consider a photo "art" because of the thought that goes into the composition of the final photograph, the development process (or the digital editing), etc. Copying from your own photo is, again, a little redundant, so it isn't really done. Copying *SOMEONE ELSE'S CREATIVE VISION*--that is, taking SOMEONE ELSE'S PHOTOGRAPH (where ALLl the creativity lies) and then drawing it with zero interpretation--is just that. Copying. Not "art."
I think it says a lot that we value quality and appreciate it when a person can create a good copy. But it isn't "art." I have in my personal portfolio a tempera painting I did when I was 15 that looks identical to the source image from National Geographic. I pull it out on occasion, because people are always impressed by something that so clearly demonstrates skill. But I don't consider this piece "art." In fact, I consider it somewhat below the still lives I drew in graphite in terms of artistic value (drawing from life DOES take a LOT more skill than drawing from a photo--in the photo, everything is made 2D for you, and you don't have to think much), and farther still below the portraiture I painted and the illustrations I have finished.
I have no problem when people appreciate the skill and effort that goes into a copy like this. But it isn't "art" if we are to use the full definition of the term. Using a camera obscura, a collection of photographs, or life-references is so far removed from copying something someone else created that it is insulting to compare the two and pronounce them even remotely similar. If I could be assured that this craftsperson were drawing from his own collection of personal photographs, then I could call him an artist. But as it stands, he is just very very skilled.
№50 Author: better artist than you (19 October 2009 09:01) Total user comments:0
S., Just because you don't like or feel challenged by it doesn't mean it's not art. saying things like "But it isn't "art" if we are to use the full definition of the term" is ridiculous. art is anything you want it to be. personally i don't care for this art, portraits of kids freak me out, but i wont sit here and let such pretentious bs slide by.
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